Monday, April 24, 2006

a reflection

I really enjoyed Pauline this semester. Thus far in my college experience ministry classes have been my most difficult classes as well as the classes I have enjoyed the most. I have learned that I must have a different attitude when taking one of my core classes. For me to come into it unprepared to learn from the Lord creates a theological mind in me and not a mind set centered on Christ dealing with theology. That has been tough every semester, but this semester God has really helped develop a habit of being prepared when approaching his word. Over the semester several of the most difficult elements of our schedule sparked the greatest amount of change in my life. Beginning with the seminar, I grew closer to some individuals in the class and learned what it meant to be in the shoes of Paul. Attempting to take on his humility and burden for a hurting and wavering church. Polhill and the DPL challenged my consistency, even though I did not completely overcome they were a constant lesson on the Pauline corpus and a lesson on how to handle it with integrity. Winter provided an intellectual exposition on Corinth. One of which stretched my comprehension, but challenged tradition and my life. The lectures from Dr. Foster conglomerated the mass of information for this dumb second year student. Actually he did a lot more than that.
I thought I would end with telling some of what I learned from my paper and some of how Pauline has effected my life. In studying the man of lawlessness of 2 Thess, I learned some of the things that will happen before Christ's return. I learned what this scripture teaches about the Anti-Christ. I learned how I must not shy away from eschatological and apocalyptic texts in the Paul or for that matter the whole bible. Todd Still said something to the extent of, "reading Paul while avoiding eschatology is like eating raisin bread and avoiding the raisins." The Thessalonian letters taught me about how I must live each day in the anticipation of Christ's imminent return. This should probably be another paragraph, but our teacher counted points off my book report for going over. Taking what I learned from the class and being able to teach a bible study over 1 Corinthians the last few weeks a church has been a joy. Not that I have some gold nugget that I can show the guys that they may have never heard before, but being able to teach students the truth of the scripture and how they can be good stewards of it is a blessing.

kevin

One more post...

This semester in Pauline Epistles has been very interesting. When class first started I realized that this class was going to push me more than any other class I had taken and I was right. This class forced me to look at Paul in a new perspective. We started the semester off by doing a background study of Paul’s life before Christ and we learned about the area in which he grew up in. It is surprising how much we truly miss when we just open our bibles and go straight to a commentary for help with the passage. This class showed me the importance of understanding the person that wrote the book withing the bible. Not only did this class force me to learn about Paul, but I will now try to read about the other authors of the bible to get a better understanding of them and what they wrote.
This semester in Pauline Epistles has been fun as well as educational. Even though it is a upper-level course that pushed our abilities and stress level’s, it was still fun. If this class would not have been as tough as it was, I would probably have gotten nothing out of it. Also, I fell good knowing that the grade I get, I earned, because the class was no put on. Overall, I know have the ability to look at Paul’s writing’s and have a better understanding of why he said what he said. I can look at the scriptures and know what group of people he was talking to because, we have done a precise background study of the books he wrote. Pauline Epistles has made me look at Paul in a different light and it will make me a better preacher because of it.

Brother in Christ,
Billy Hardesty

Pualine Epstlies

Hi, Jacob Here!! My semeter in Pauline Epistles has been awesome. I think that my most fovorite part about this semesters class has been the discussions in class. I gained a lot from listening and hearing what people had to say. I value opinions of everyone because there are some many smart people in our class. I think that Io have learned more in this class than I have any other class, and that is encouraging to me as I enter into more of the same classes at Williams.

I have been excited about this class since day one. I feel that the most beneficil assigement was out seminar. This is where i really learned how hard it was to compose a letter that Paul would have composed. I have a new perception of Paul's letters and on Biblical studies that I plane on usining later on in the futre. It's been a great year. Hope everyone has a Wonderful summer. Come by and sign my yearbook.

Overall View of the Class

I have thoroughly enjoyed Pauline Epistles this semester. I have to admit, prior to this class, my knowledge of Paul and his letters was limited. I have enjoyed reading the letters of Paul after gaining more knowledge about the Greco-Roman world and getting a better understanding of how to interpret his letters within the proper context. I also learned a significant amount of information from the Bruce Winter's book. I enjoy studying history, but particularly history from the period and culture of biblical times.

Once again, I also enjoyed the seminar we had this semester. I learned that I did not know as much about scripture from memory as I thought I previously did. The discussions and the freedom to discuss topics of personal interests in the class are appreciated as well. My favorite part of the class is the detailed exegesis of the text. I thoroughly enjoy the lectures and the personal touch added to the class by Dr. Foster, even though I sometimes get frustrated before thinking his comments through. I also am glad I finally learned the chronology of Paul's letters and his missionary journeys. Since this class, I have been able to teach my church members more about the largest portion of the New Testament.

I have learned a lot

I have learned a great deal in this Pauline class. I have gone from addmitedly ignorant about Paul to feeling confident that I could outline his life. He was an inspirational character. He went from completely doubting to completely defending because of an encounter with Jesus. He was obviously favored because Jesus does not show up in person to everybody; Paul was unique. His Jewish Pharisee background made him well versed in the basics and his zealous nature made him a formitable Christian.
Paul wrote many of the books of our New Testament. These books were once just letters to church plants Paul had been involved in while traveling on missionary journies. I learned in Dr. Foster's class that Paul spoke to the Jew first then the gentile. This was a very new idea to me since I assumed everything was written just for me. I enjoyed Dr. Foster's lectures a lot. Though the class was a challenge, I have gained volumes of knowledge that will further my intellect.

REFLECTION!! (IN ALL CAPS SO I CAN KEEP IT IN MY FOLDER..) mo was so much more simple!!

Lyda Turner

It has been a rollercoaster of a semester! I went into this not knowing what to expect and honestly dreaded the most of it. Little did I know my life would be forever changed. I have a greater sense of accomplishment and can definitely tell where I am lacking in responsibility. My favorite thing about the class lectures and reading material had to be just the chance to really dig in to Paul's writings and the purpose for writing them. It was good to read the letters and have the historical background from which he was working. I really enjoyed the study of the people and their culture.

My favorite part of the assignments honestly would be the seminar. It was really a humbling experience. To set down without a bible,and be able to speak like Paul. My own ability really suprised me. I worked with a really great group of kids too. I really have said for a long time that I thought Paul was a good biblical character to follow, but after doing an indepth study of how he wrote I really do strive for that passion.

Some of the toughest parts of the semester were the paper! It was a tough one, and although i could have done better overall, i am proud of what i gained from it. This was a class that forced me to stay on task, and can definitely feel the pull when I havent. I needed the extra mile this semester The internet has not cooperated with us ALL semester, and I have renounced twice!! but God is good and has a forgiving heart!!! ITS BEEN A GREAT SEMESTER!!

Don't be a language bigot!

I have learned so much about Paul and his writings over the semester, mainly the way some of his writings should be viewed in the cultural context as well as how some have been taken out of context. The Pauline seminar. Wow. That experience blew any notion that I had that I was a mini quasi-biblical expert. I'm still not up to par by any means. It was awesome to have been provided the opportunity to combine what knowledge I have with the knowledge of others to write the letter to the Dystopians, sans Bible.

The fiery debates were fun as well. Especially the "called or converted?" debate. I had always thought what I had been taught in Sunday school about a billion and a half years ago that it was Paul's conversion on the Damascus road. I liked Dr. Foster's restatement of the question and then the simple answer of "yes". I had never thought of the event that way. This class has challenged me to think critically; to analyze thoroughly through the historical, grammatical...yada yada yada...those filters we learned about in the hermaneutics section of Bib Interp three forevers ago.

I have to admit that toward the end of the class I got to the point where I didn't want to pick up my Bible and read it simply because there was Paul in it and I viewed it as a textbook. It was because of the Pauline paper that I stood outside of the dorm with my fist up in the air yelling at God. I've taken the stress of these things and turned them into a challenge. I'm thinking that they're an indication that I need to grow spiritually. Wow. I think if I had to boil everything that I learned about this class down, I would have to say that it has taught me that I need to strive even harder to grow in every aspect of my faith and strengthen my relationship with Christ.

Thanks Paul.

Pauline Epistles: A Final Word

Wow! I have been continually amazed at how much I walk away with when I have endured upper-level biblical work while here at Williams, and Pauline Epistles is no exception! The first point I would like to say that I am thankful for is how we have learned much about the ancient world in which Paul's letters were written. When I read Paul now, I read it with an understanding that he was not anywhere near an American in his thinking, and that makes a tremendous difference in interpretation and application. I have came to view it as a foriegn letter that has been translated into my language, and that is exactly what it is. I am thankful for the historical background of Paul's culture that Dr. Foster has painstakingly emphasized.

I would also like to say that I have been reminded once more by this class that biblical studies is a very challenging, difficult task. It requires much diligence, determination, and effort, but the rewards truly are eternal and therefore worth it all. Through the reading, class lectures, the book review, the paper, and even this blog I have learned a tremendous amount about Paul and his letters. This class has encouraged me to continue to push myself to "study to show myself approved." Though I know I am not anywhere where I need to be, I am determined to press on with a motivation that comes from the knowledge I have gained from this class. Ours is a worthwhile calling deserving of our perseverance. This class has given me tools and trained me to continue biblical studies in the future in seminary and then also on my own.

I would like to thank everyone for this experience!
Peace
Wade Drury

Pauline Epistles

Pauline Epistles this semester has been a very interesting experience for me this semester. I have spent most of my life in ignorance of most of whom and what Paul was. I have learned that much of what Paul wrote was very culturally significant. I had always struggled with much of Paul’s teachings because they seemed almost anti Christian in a manner of speaking. Much of what I learned was a result of understanding the cultural significance of Paul.

This class has taught me to look more critically at the text and the understanding of how to interpret the Pauline Epistles. The books that I have obtained for this class will be invaluable resources to me in my coming ministry. This class has armed me with the necessary knowledge to interpret this scripture. The Pauline Corpus has taken on new meaning and will now be a more effective and powerful tool for me both on a ministerial level and on a person level.

Pauline Reflection

I could not think up a clever title as my fellow graduate Mr. Adam B. so that title will have to do. I had high hopes coming into Pauline this semester. The last upper level Dr. Foster class that I took was Life of Christ (which is also recommended if one wants to gain more knowledge of the Gospels). I have always been intrigued by the person of Paul in a very naive sense -- meaning that I never really knew anything about the man. Our class this semester provided a new outlook for me when I examine the letters and teachings of Paul. Moreover, I learned a ton of information regarding history and the importance of context in Biblical studies.

For the most part, I enjoyed my time in Pauline Epistles. The one thing that bothered me the most was my increased stress level because of my anxiety to graduate. But apart from that, I felt that this class was beneficial to my ministry. In the most cheerleader way that I can, I fell that I am a better person because of Pauline Epistles in Spring 2006 (no seriously, B-E-T-T-E-R BETTER!!!!!....with a song and dance to follow). I have enjoyed my time in this class and around the people that encompass the class. I have made new friends through this class and have gained new respect for everyone. Do well in your ministries and God Bless.

Paul and modern Christian Ministry students

I feel that the most helpful and most enlightening aspect of the Pauline class was the seminar. The seminar gave me more of a chance to relate to Paul. The seminar also showed me how much I do not know. I of course thought I knew much more than I did. I have come to the firm conclusion that more classes should have seminars such as we had. My other conclusion is that Galatians 5:1 does still belong in chapter five not four.
My second point is one of disappointment. I spent quite a bit of time with some of my classmates and was horrorstruck by their ethical practices. If you are a Christian Ministry student that cheats, then hopefully you will be operated on by a surgeon who cheated as well. I think that Paul would be knocking some of our classmates out the window if he was in our class. How can you think that cheating does you any good.

A Crab + A Bomb= Ou What A Blast! (Sorry, if you are currently a barbarian, then this falls into the category of TA MUSTHRIA H EKKLHSIA TOU PHOTOS!)

As I reflect on Pauline Epistles, my attitude toward the class is indicative of my time spent here at Williams. My thoughts and feelings about the class are best expressed in a single slogan. This slogan was popularized in the 80's because of its use in a hit song, Patrick Swayze (what a heartthrob) danced his heart out to it on the big screen, God knows who wrote it, but yes--"I"ve had the time of my life, and I've never felt this way before. Yes I swear it's the truth, and I owe it all to you." This has been a tremendous learning experience for me. Through this class I have gained siginificant insight and understanding of the Pauline corpus, my personal Bible study has been enhanced, and I feel that I have progressed intellectually and spirtually. I have also enjoyed this learning exprience alongside my friends and brothers and sisters in Christ amongst the class. This class, and this semester, as well as all my time spent at Williams has truly been a blessing. While my mom may have gotten drug through the mud on a few, well ok several occassions, I still consider to be a better person having had the privelage to attend school at this college. The relationships I have made with students and professors are some that will surely make lasting impressions on me. I hope to be able to continue those friendships as I move on and embrace the next part of my life. So, to sum it up.......it's been a blast (hence the title)!

Pauline Theology

When I started the semester off in this class I had no idea what I was going to get into, nor how little I actually knew about Paul. Paul was a great defender of the faith and he got his point across , and he had a way of going about to doing it that made people realize that he was true. Paul really cared about the people that he was ministering to. I really learned how much trouble besides persecution that Paul really went through in his ministry, he had so many opponents and he use simple things like rhetoric to ask questions. Paul showed Jews and Gentiles alike how they are to be united as one body with one another in the Christian family and that the Gentiles did not have to become Jew first to be saved. Paul showed that it is the an issue of the heart on most controversies that he faced.
By doing the project and writing the reasearch paper I really learned alot about the character of Paul himself, he had his own style of doing things and it worked he was stubborn and hard headed by at the sametime loving and he did let them work together and that was amazing. Paul was good at pointing out the main emphasis to being saved and that was to simply believe in the death, burial , and resurrection of Jesus CHrist and that He is the Savior of the world. Big Bro James

Pauline Theology

When I started the semester off in this class I had no idea what I was going to get into, nor how little I actually knew about Paul. Paul was a great defender of the faith and he got his point across , and he had a way of going about to doing it that made people realize that he was true. Paul really cared about the people that he was ministering to. I really learned how much trouble besides persecution that Paul really went through in his ministry, he had so many opponents and he use simple things like rhetoric to ask questions. Paul showed Jews and Gentiles alike how they are to be united as one body with one another in the Christian family and that the Gentiles did not have to become Jew first to be saved. Paul showed that it is the an issue of the heart on most controversies that he faced.
By doing the project and writing the reasearch paper I really learned alot about the character of Paul himself, he had his own style of doing things and it worked he was stubborn and hard headed by at the sametime loving and he did let them work together and that was amazing. Paul was good at pointing out the main emphasis to being saved and that was to simply believe in the death, burial , and resurrection of Jesus CHrist and that He is the Savior of the world. Big Bro James

Pauline Theology

When I started the semester off in this class I had no idea what I was going to get into, nor how little I actually knew about Paul. Paul was a great defender of the faith and he got his point across , and he had a way of going about to doing it that made people realize that he was true. Paul really cared about the people that he was ministering to. I really learned how much trouble besides persecution that Paul really went through in his ministry, he had so many opponents and he use simple things like rhetoric to ask questions. Paul showed Jews and Gentiles alike how they are to be united as one body with one another in the Christian family and that the Gentiles did not have to become Jew first to be saved. Paul showed that it is the an issue of the heart on most controversies that he faced.
By doing the project and writing the reasearch paper I really learned alot about the character of Paul himself, he had his own style of doing things and it worked he was stubborn and hard headed by at the sametime loving and he did let them work together and that was amazing. Paul was good at pointing out the main emphasis to being saved and that was to simply believe in the death, burial , and resurrection of Jesus CHrist and that He is the Savior of the world. Big Bro James

Pauline Theology

When I started the semester off in this class I had no idea what I was going to get into, nor how little I actually knew about Paul. Paul was a great defender of the faith and he got his point across , and he had a way of going about to doing it that made people realize that he was true. Paul really cared about the people that he was ministering to. I really learned how much trouble besides persecution that Paul really went through in his ministry, he had so many opponents and he use simple things like rhetoric to ask questions. Paul showed Jews and Gentiles alike how they are to be united as one body with one another in the Christian family and that the Gentiles did not have to become Jew first to be saved. Paul showed that it is the an issue of the heart on most controversies that he faced.
By doing the project and writing the reasearch paper I really learned alot about the character of Paul himself, he had his own style of doing things and it worked he was stubborn and hard headed by at the sametime loving and he did let them work together and that was amazing. Paul was good at pointing out the main emphasis to being saved and that was to simply believe in the death, burial , and resurrection of Jesus CHrist and that He is the Savior of the world. Big Bro James

Pauline Theology

When I started the semester off in this class I had no idea what I was going to get into, nor how little I actually knew about Paul. Paul was a great defender of the faith and he got his point across , and he had a way of going about to doing it that made people realize that he was true. Paul really cared about the people that he was ministering to. I really learned how much trouble besides persecution that Paul really went through in his ministry, he had so many opponents and he use simple things like rhetoric to ask questions. Paul showed Jews and Gentiles alike how they are to be united as one body with one another in the Christian family and that the Gentiles did not have to become Jew first to be saved. Paul showed that it is the an issue of the heart on most controversies that he faced.
By doing the project and writing the reasearch paper I really learned alot about the character of Paul himself, he had his own style of doing things and it worked he was stubborn and hard headed by at the sametime loving and he did let them work together and that was amazing. Paul was good at pointing out the main emphasis to being saved and that was to simply believe in the death, burial , and resurrection of Jesus CHrist and that He is the Savior of the world. Big Bro James

Good Times

Pauline Epistles has been one of the most edifying classes I have ever taken. It means a lot to me to finally study and understand Paul’s background and the background of the first century church. There is a number of good things I can say about the class. I Think the Polhill book is the best part about the class because It’s really easy to understand and He does a great job of revealing the background and the meaning of each of the letters of Paul. It is definitely a book that I will keep and refer back to in my ministry studies. The group seminar that we did was another very important part of the class for me because I was broken on my superficial knowledge of scripture and Pauline style. The project has caused me to study more fervently.
Another thing that I really loved about the class was doing the paper. Not that I enjoy papers but the passage really meant a lot to me. I did my paper over the 2 Cor 11:26-33, which is the hardship catalogue. I don’t know how well of a paper I presented but I do know that the passage had an important effect on my heart and I pray that I can apply what I have learned to my life and ministry. I understand that being a servant of Christ may cost be everything but it would truly be worth it for the glory of God.
Stephen Foust

Keep on Keepin' on

There are so many ways that this class has challenged, grown, and interested me. To have a much better grasp of the biblical historical perspective the first century church, as well as the first century itself I will hold as such a avalueable commodoty. Two major parts of the class, besides the lectures, really helped me grow as a student of the Bible: the Paper and the Project.

The project was so much more fun than i thought spending six extra hours of school could be. I was blessed by the hard work of my group and the understanding they conveyed throughout the project. The challenge put forth by my peers was so encouraging. There was a specific point during the project in that i thought to my self "wow, i don't know very much!" this has pushed me to desire a stronger and deeper biblical/historical understanding of God's Word

The Paper, weather or not i did well, was personally rewarding. i truly felt like i was able to apply many things i have learned at college, specifically in my major, to the paper. i used many of the skills learned in bib. interp. to research the text. When finishing the paper i felt like i had when i had finished my bib interp paper, like i had some solid authoritative knowledge of the biblical text. this brought me much joy and satisfaction, but at the same time overwwhelms me at the thought of how much work goes into doing that study on a much larger scale.

So i will keep on, Keepin' on in the work that still lies before me.

a reflection

I really enjoyed Pauline this semester. Thus far in my college experience ministry classes have been my most difficult classes as well as the classes I have enjoyed the most. I have learned that I must have a different attitude when taking one of my core classes. For me to come into it unprepared to learn from the Lord creates a theological mind in me and not a mind set centered on Christ dealing with theology. That has been tough every semester, but this semester God has really helped develop a habit of being prepared when approaching his word. Over the semester several of the most difficult elements of our schedule sparked the greatest amount of change in my life. Beginning with the seminar, I grew closer to some individuals in the class and learned what it meant to be in the shoes of Paul. Attempting to take on his humility and burden for a hurting and wavering church. Polhill and the DPL challenged my consistency, even though I did not completely overcome they were a constant lesson on the Pauline corpus and a lesson on how to handle it with integrity. Winter provided an intellectual exposition on Corinth. One of which stretched my comprehension, but challenged tradition and my life. The lectures from Dr. Foster conglomerated the mass of information for this dumb second year student. Actually he did a lot more than that.
I thought I would end with telling some of what I learned from my paper and some of how Pauline has effected my life. In studying the man of lawlessness of 2 Thess, I learned some of the things that will happen before Christ's return. I learned what this scripture teaches about the Anti-Christ. I learned how I must not shy away from eschatological and apocalyptic texts in the Paul or for that matter the whole bible. Todd Still said something to the extent of, "reading Paul while avoiding eschatology is like eating raisin bread and avoiding the raisins." The Thessalonian letters taught me about how I must live each day in the anticipation of Christ's imminent return. This should probably be another paragraph, but our teacher counted points off my book report for going over. Taking what I learned from the class and being able to teach a bible study over 1 Corinthians the last few weeks a church has been a joy. Not that I have some gold nugget that I can show the guys that they may have never heard before, but being able to teach students the truth of the scripture and how they can be good stewards of it is a blessing.

kevin
I really enjoyed Pauline this semester. Thus far in my college experience ministry classes have been my most difficult classes as well as the classes I have enjoyed the most. I have learned that I must have a different attitude when taking one of my core classes. For me to come into it unprepared to learn from the Lord creates a theological mind in me and not a mind set centered on Christ dealing with theology. That has been tough every semester, but this semester God has really helped develop a habit of being prepared when approaching his word. Over the semester several of the most difficult elements of our schedule sparked the greatest amount of change in my life. Beginning with the seminar, I grew closer to some individuals in the class and learned what it meant to be in the shoes of Paul. Attempting to take on his humility and burden for a hurting and wavering church. Polhill and the DPL challenged my consistency, even though I did not completely overcome they were a constant lesson on the Pauline corpus and a lesson on how to handle it with integrity. Winter provided an intellectual exposition on Corinth. One of which stretched my comprehension, but challenged tradition and my life. The lectures from Dr. Foster conglomerated the mass of information for this dumb second year student. Actually he did a lot more than that.
I thought I would end with telling some of what I learned from my paper and some of how Pauline has effected my life. In studying the man of lawlessness of 2 Thess, I learned some of the things that will happen before Christ's return. I learned what this scripture teaches about the Anti-Christ. I learned how I must not shy away from eschatological and apocalyptic texts in the Paul or for that matter the whole bible. Todd Still said something to the extent of, "reading Paul while avoiding eschatology is like eating raisin bread and avoiding the raisins." The Thessalonian letters taught me about how I must live each day in the anticipation of Christ's imminent return. This should probably be another paragraph, but our teacher counted points off my book report for going over. Taking what I learned from the class and being able to teach a bible study over 1 Corinthians the last few weeks a church has been a joy. Not that I have some gold nugget that I can show the guys that they may have never heard before, but being able to teach students the truth of the scripture and how they can be good stewards of it is a blessing.

kevin

A Walk to Remember

I have truly enjoyed Pauline Epistles over the last semester. There is much more to Pauline studies than I first expected, but the study has opened my eyes to a number of important ideas. First of all, Pauline literature encompasses much more than a text. The occasional letters of Paul respond to specific issues in specific places. We may not be able to completely understand the occasion of a letter, but the study of cultural and religious aspects of the first century world yields important information concerning the context of Pauline letters. Secondly, the field of New Testament literature is not static. The Pauline Corpus has been intact for nearly two millenia, but theories and scholarship continued to change throughout the nineteenth and twentieth century. Scholars such as F.C. Baur develop theories concerning Paul's opponents and controversy within the church. Schools of thought rise and fall with the discovery of new information and the passage of time.

Though scholarship changes over the passage of time, the letters of Paul remain the same. They have persevered as examples of apostolic leadership. While the modern church cannot understand all of the dynamics of the first century church, the Pauline Corpus contains guidance that is still relevant to the modern church. A great professor of mine once said, "begin with the end in mind." Such an admonishment challenges one to begin a course with the intention of finishing strong, and finish without forgetting the original goals or foundation of the course. This weekend, I was thinking about the above statement while I was finishing the reading log. I ran across 2 Timothy 2:14-26, the scripture passage that Dr. Foster addressed in the initial class period. As a young minister of the gospel, I believe that Paul's admonishment is one of the most positive, encouraging, and truthful admonishments that one might receive. If each individual did his best to present one's self to God, a number of the issues that Paul addressed would not exist in the modern church. With this in mind, the most important aspect of Pauline studies is the application of Biblical principles in the context of daily living.

It's been real. It's been fun. It's been really fun,
the other Paul

A Walk to Remember

I have truly enjoyed Pauline Epistles over the last semester. There is much more to Pauline studies than I first expected, but the study has opened my eyes to a number of important ideas. First of all, Pauline literature encompasses much more than a text. The occasional letters of Paul respond to specific issues in specific places. We may not be able to completely understand the occasion of a letter, but the study of cultural and religious aspects of the first century world yields important information concerning the context of Pauline letters. Secondly, the field of New Testament literature is not static. The Pauline Corpus has been intact for nearly two millenia, but theories and scholarship continued to change throughout the nineteenth and twentieth century. Scholars such as F.C. Baur develop theories concerning Paul's opponents and controversy within the church. Schools of thought rise and fall with the discovery of new information and the passage of time.

Though scholarship changes over the passage of time, the letters of Paul remain the same. They have persevered as examples of apostolic leadership. While the modern church cannot understand all of the dynamics of the first century church, the Pauline Corpus contains guidance that is still relevant to the modern church. A great professor of mine once said, "begin with the end in mind." Such an admonishment challenges one to begin a course with the intention of finishing strong, and finish without forgetting the original goals or foundation of the course. This weekend, I was thinking about the above statement while I was finishing the reading log. I ran across 2 Timothy 2:14-26, the scripture passage that Dr. Foster addressed in the initial class period. As a young minister of the gospel, I believe that Paul's admonishment is one of the most positive, encouraging, and truthful admonishments that one might receive. If each individual did his best to present one's self to God, a number of the issues that Paul addressed would not exist in the modern church. With this in mind, the most important aspect of Pauline studies is the application of Biblical principles in the context of daily living.

It's been real. It's been fun. It's been really fun,
the other Paul

A Walk to Remember

I have truly enjoyed Pauline Epistles over the last semester. There is much more to Pauline studies than I first expected, but the study has opened my eyes to a number of important ideas. First of all, Pauline literature encompasses much more than a text. The occasional letters of Paul respond to specific issues in specific places. We may not be able to completely understand the occasion of a letter, but the study of cultural and religious aspects of the first century world yields important information concerning the context of Pauline letters. Secondly, the field of New Testament literature is not static. The Pauline Corpus has been intact for nearly two millenia, but theories and scholarship continued to change throughout the nineteenth and twentieth century. Scholars such as F.C. Baur develop theories concerning Paul's opponents and controversy within the church. Schools of thought rise and fall with the discovery of new information and the passage of time.

Though scholarship changes over the passage of time, the letters of Paul remain the same. They have persevered as examples of apostolic leadership. While the modern church cannot understand all of the dynamics of the first century church, the Pauline Corpus contains guidance that is still relevant to the modern church. A great professor of mine once said, "begin with the end in mind." Such an admonishment challenges one to begin a course with the intention of finishing strong, and finish without forgetting the original goals or foundation of the course. This weekend, I was thinking about the above statement while I was finishing the reading log. I ran across 2 Timothy 2:14-26, the scripture passage that Dr. Foster addressed in the initial class period. As a young minister of the gospel, I believe that Paul's admonishment is one of the most positive, encouraging, and truthful admonishments that one might receive. If each individual did his best to present one's self to God, a number of the issues that Paul addressed would not exist in the modern church. With this in mind, the most important aspect of Pauline studies is the application of Biblical principles in the context of daily living.

It's been real. It's been fun. It's been really fun,
the other Paul

A Walk to Remember

I have truly enjoyed Pauline Epistles over the last semester. There is much more to Pauline studies than I first expected, but the study has opened my eyes to a number of important ideas. First of all, Pauline literature encompasses much more than a text. The occasional letters of Paul respond to specific issues in specific places. We may not be able to completely understand the occasion of a letter, but the study of cultural and religious aspects of the first century world yields important information concerning the context of Pauline letters. Secondly, the field of New Testament literature is not static. The Pauline Corpus has been intact for nearly two millenia, but theories and scholarship continued to change throughout the nineteenth and twentieth century. Scholars such as F.C. Baur develop theories concerning Paul's opponents and controversy within the church. Schools of thought rise and fall with the discovery of new information and the passage of time.

Though scholarship changes over the passage of time, the letters of Paul remain the same. They have persevered as examples of apostolic leadership. While the modern church cannot understand all of the dynamics of the first century church, the Pauline Corpus contains guidance that is still relevant to the modern church. A great professor of mine once said, "begin with the end in mind." Such an admonishment challenges one to begin a course with the intention of finishing strong, and finish without forgetting the original goals or foundation of the course. This weekend, I was thinking about the above statement while I was finishing the reading log. I ran across 2 Timothy 2:14-26, the scripture passage that Dr. Foster addressed in the initial class period. As a young minister of the gospel, I believe that Paul's admonishment is one of the most positive, encouraging, and truthful admonishments that one might receive. If each individual did his best to present one's self to God, a number of the issues that Paul addressed would not exist in the modern church. With this in mind, the most important aspect of Pauline studies is the application of Biblical principles in the context of daily living.

It's been real. It's been fun. It's been really fun,
the other Paul

What a long, crazy ride its been...

It seems like we just started and now it's over. I have to admit when Dr. Foster said during the first day that "this class will haunt you" I was wondering a bit what exactly it was that I had gotten myself into, but this class has been the most informative, yet exhausting academic endeavor I have ever undertaken. I have never leaned so much in my life. I had absolutely no idea about most of the things that we studied, or ever questioned some of the things we debated. The Polhill text has proved to be a very helpful tool in Pauline Studies. I am very glad (now) that we had the reading assignments, for they have been very helpful in bringing issues out in a new light.

When I was registering for classes at the end of last semester I was reminded time and time again that "Pauline is the hardest class offered at Williams." In some respects I am sure it is, however I know that in the years to come I will look back upon my time in Pauline Epistles and realize that it was here that I first gained my knowledge and understanding of the background of the Apostle Paul and the first century world in which he was writing. I am forever greatful for what I have gained this semester in this class.

In Christ,
Steven Price
(Stevo)

Pauline, Pauline... My, how time flys.

When I thought about all of the things that I got from taking this course, I realized that I really have learned alot. My whole view of Paul before his conversion call experience may be one of the biggest changes in my understanding that I have experienced. The fact that Paul wasn't just some kind of monster before he met Christ on the road to Damascus, just someone who was passionate about his beliefs. He was no less passionate about the cause for Christ when he learned the truth.

Also the influences that played a part in the developement of Paul's preaching and teaching techniques was a concept that I hadn't heard of before Pauline. The use of rhetoric and simularities with some of Paul's methods and the apocrypha were very interesting as well.

I will miss the class very much...
The Blogging on the other hand...

What I Have Learned

I have learned tht a paranesis is a moral or value lesson. Paul's outline of his writings include: address, thanksgiving, body, paranesis, greetings, and closing benedition. The social situations and content of Paul's time are very relavant to the interpretation of the text. I realized the importance of knowing the existence of gnosticism and mystery religions in order to have spiritual discernment and understand the context of what Paul was saying. Paul helped them to understand that just to know Christ and Him being crucified, buried, and resurrected enables you to understand the spiritual.

The idea of a slave as understood in Paul's day was different than what we consider a slave to be today. Paul addressed defective wisdom. I discovered that the Patra familia comes from God. In Hebrew theology, God is the Patron who provides divine wisdom. He protects and takes care of His people. God is the Patra familia over Christ who is over the Church. Paul illustrates that patronage is alright, as long as you have the right patron. Human wisom is defective. It took the church and fractured it into four parts: Paul, Apollos, Cephas, and Christ. True wisdom and true church leaders should be servant leaders, and Christ focused and centered. Leaders are formed from servanthood, and not power. A true Christian leader must serve before he/she can lead.

Vicky

Pauline Epistles, An Overview

I think that the class in Pauline Epistles was very effective. It was effective to me not because I was spiritually fed, though at times I was, but because I grew intelectually in my knowledge of first century society. I can read the Bible for myself, yet it was good for me to be taught about the workings of the Mediteranean world and how they impacted Paul. Without fail the best read in this class, and maybe in my whole college career thus far, was Bruce Winter's After Paul Left Corinth. This book was so intriguing and it helped me so much to really discover some of the motives and thoughts of Paul. Another thing that I really enjoyed was the group project. It is by far, the most fun project that I have had here at this school. I enjoyed the oppurtunity to be creative, as well as the challange to set myself in the mind of Paul.
I think so often in Christianity we approach everything with a mythical perspective. We want to feel all warm and fuzzy inside and we do not really challenge ourselves academically. I think this is suicidal for the Christian religion. We must be a people that learn the Word of God, that learn the aspects behind it, that learn the criticism of it. If truly desire to grow the faith and to grow in our faith, I think we must understand this. I enjoyed this class because it did challenge my intellect. To be quite frank: I think the church needs less hocus-pocus and emotion and more in depth study and interpretation of the word fo God.

One last post... (Unless there is another)

This semester in Pauline Epistles has been very interesting. When class first started I realized that this class was going to push me more than any other class I had taken and I was right. This class forced me to look at Paul in a new perspective. We started the semester off by doing a background study of Paul’s life before Christ and we learned about the area in which he grew up in. It is surprising how much we truly miss when we just open our bibles and go straight to a commentary for help with the passage. This class showed me the importance of understanding the person that wrote the book withing the bible. Not only did this class force me to learn about Paul, but I will now try to read about the other authors of the bible to get a better understanding of them and what they wrote.

This semester in Pauline Epistles has been fun as well as educational. Even though it is a upper-level course that pushed our abilities and stress level’s, it was still fun. If this class would not have been as tough as it was, I would probably have gotten nothing out of it. Also, I fell good knowing that the grade I get, I earned, because the class was no put on. Overall, I know have the ability to look at Paul’s writing’s and have a better understanding of why he said what he said. I can look at the scriptures and know what group of people he was talking to because, we have done a precise background study of the books he wrote. Pauline Epistles has made me look at Paul in a different light and it will make me a better preacher because of it.

Brother in Christ,
Billy Hardesty

Sunday, April 23, 2006

Reflection of the Past Semester

It has been an amazing semester. The study of Paul’s epistles has challenged my beliefs and the way I look at Paul’s letters. I have learned the value of examining terms and concepts and what they meant to a first century Jewish mind set rather than a 21century understanding. The one lecture that truly made me realize this was the discussion on Paul’s conversion. It never occurred to me before hand that Paul never really had an understanding of conversion like Augustine discusses. I also have gained a better appreciation of the use of primary sources. This class has shown me how to use those sources to gain a better understanding of not only the culture but the literary styles that are found in Paul’s letters. Also, this class has made me think more about sociological studies and their significance on biblical studies. The gentile converts in Paul’s churches still held onto their pagan mind sets after conversion. For the gentile, conversion was a radical life change. Everything they knew and every behavior they formed was called to be altered for the sake of Christ. Before this class, I always viewed the recipients of Paul’s letters to be foolish. Now I realize that they were involved in a radical life change and that kind of altercation toke much effort and was very hard. We today also struggle with being completely Christ like in our behavior after being believers for even several years. We have more in common with the gentiles in Paul’s letters than I realize.
Before this class, I had the mind set that by studying enough resources on the biblical text that I would be able to have a great understanding of exactly what is going on in Paul’s letters and be able to answer all the hard questions that all my youth group kids would ask. The truth is after studying all the reconstructions of Paul’s letters and the debate on the countless possible opponents of Paul, I have more questions than when I started. I have learned that ultimately no matter how hard I try I will not be able to answer all the questions about the bible. I have learned that ultimately Christianity is a faith issue and not the intellectual studies that I have tried to make it at times. It is ok that I do not know everything, because I believe that my God is big enough to provide for me and guide me through the journey of life in ministry and ultimately it is He that changes people and heals their wounds and not me.

Reflection on the Past Semester

It has been an amazing semester. The study of Paul’s epistles has challenged my beliefs and the way I look at Paul’s letters. I have learned the value of examining terms and concepts and what they meant to a first century Jewish mind set rather than a 21century understanding. The one lecture that truly made me realize this was the discussion on Paul’s conversion. It never occured to me before hand that Paul never really had an understanding of conversion like Augustine discusses. I also have gained a better appreciation of the use of primary sources. This class has shown me how to use those sources to gain a better understanding of not only the culture but the literary styles that are found in Paul’s letters. Also, this class has made me think more about sociological studies and their significance on biblical studies. The gentile converts in Paul’s churches still held onto their pagan mind sets after conversion. For the gentile, conversion was a radical life change. Everything they knew and every behavior they formed was called to be altered for the sake of Christ. Before this class, I always viewed the recipients of Paul’s letters to be foolish. Now I realize that they were involved in a radical life change and that kind of altercation toke much effort and was very hard. We today also struggle with being completely Christ like in our behavior after being believers for even several years. We have more in common with the gentiles in Paul’s letters than I realize.
Before this class, I had the mind set that by studying enough resources on the biblical text that I would be able to have a great understanding of exactly what is going on in Paul’s letters and be able to answer all the hard questions that all my youth group kids would ask. The truth is after studying all the reconstructions of Paul’s letters and the debate on the countless possible opponents of Paul, I have more questions than when I started. I have learned that ultimately no matter how hard I try I will not be able to answer all the questions about the bible. I have learned that ultimately Christianity is a faith issue and not the intellectual studies that I have tried to make it at times. It is ok that I do not know everything, because I believe that my God is big enough to provide for me and guide me through the journey of life in ministry and ultimately it is He that changes people and heals their wounds and not me.
Travis Adams

Reflection on the Past Semester

It has been an amazing semester. The study of Paul’s epistles has challenged my beliefs and the way I look at Paul’s letters. I have learned the value of examining terms and concepts and what they meant to a first century Jewish mind set rather than a 21century understanding. The one lecture that truly made me realize this was the discussion on Paul’s conversion. It never occured to me before hand that Paul never really had an understanding of conversion like Augustine discusses. I also have gained a better appreciation of the use of primary sources. This class has shown me how to use those sources to gain a better understanding of not only the culture but the literary styles that are found in Paul’s letters. Also, this class has made me think more about sociological studies and their significance on biblical studies. The gentile converts in Paul’s churches still held onto their pagan mind sets after conversion. For the gentile, conversion was a radical life change. Everything they knew and every behavior they formed was called to be altered for the sake of Christ. Before this class, I always viewed the recipients of Paul’s letters to be foolish. Now I realize that they were involved in a radical life change and that kind of altercation toke much effort and was very hard. We today also struggle with being completely Christ like in our behavior after being believers for even several years. We have more in common with the gentiles in Paul’s letters than I realize.
Before this class, I had the mind set that by studying enough resources on the biblical text that I would be able to have a great understanding of exactly what is going on in Paul’s letters and be able to answer all the hard questions that all my youth group kids would ask. The truth is after studying all the reconstructions of Paul’s letters and the debate on the countless possible opponents of Paul, I have more questions than when I started. I have learned that ultimately no matter how hard I try I will not be able to answer all the questions about the bible. I have learned that ultimately Christianity is a faith issue and not the intellectual studies that I have tried to make it at times. It is ok that I do not know everything, because I believe that my God is big enough to provide for me and guide me through the journey of life in ministry and ultimately it is He that changes people and heals their wounds and not me.
Travis Adams

Saturday, April 22, 2006

SEMESTER that might haunt you!!!!!

I still remember Dr. Foster's words on the first day of class "this class will haunt you" and indeed at times such as two or three in the morning during the semester it has on certain days but all in all I feel it has been well worth the stress it has given with all the demands it has shed on me. This class has really made me think about many things in a new light such as Paul's "conversion" and whether it was even that. It has also made me dive deeper into the text at times to understand the meaning of the text than I generally have in the past. I have been reminded this semester that every word in scripture is useful for teaching, rebuking, and training in righteousness and that it is not just advice but is actually "purpose driven".

Through the major paper for the class I was stretched academically and spiritually as I honestly explored what Paul actually meant when he wrote Ephesians 2:1-10. Over many long nights and sweat and tears and maybe a little bit of blood I really began to understand what Grace really was better than it had ever been explained to me by anyone in the past. I feel throughout this class I have been better prepared to lead others and that I am realizing the amount of study that should be poured into God's word not only for teaching but also for our own relationships with God to grow.
In the words of a wise man....."peace be with you"(yeah I am talking about Jesus)
Ira R.

...and That's the Whole Ball of Wax

The Pauline Corpus has always had an impact for me on my life. To think that some Pharisee who used to persecute Christianity could experience some miraculous appearing of the risen Christ and become Christianity's strongest advocate and defender is a feat that only God could arrange. I have learned many things about Paul's life and ministry: Grace was a major theme of Pauls writings; boasting is not sinful when used to glorify the Lord; but I believe the idea that I have come to understand throughout the writings of Paul is the significance of suffering in the Christian life. This idea pops up in almost every writing by Paul; he was one of the best experienced in this turmoil for the sake of Christ. It only gives me hope that when I am suffering for my faith, Christ is right there beside me nodding his head saying, "Now you are taking up your cross."
Pauline Epistles will be a class that will stick with me (haunt me) for the rest of my life. I praise God that I chose to take this class and even more so that I was challenged in many ways by it (ideologically, mentally, spiritually, sometimes even physically). The environment of the class itself was very relaxed to me and made me comfortable in my note taking and in understanding the concepts, especially the ones I had never heard of. Blogging itself created challenges for the sake of time; but I personally enjoyed it that I was able to think of a theological idea from a different standpoint or sometimes just pat someone on the back and tell them that I agreed with them. All in all, regardless of grade, Pauline Epistles will ever be in my heart.

Zach Pyron (DTS/AIC...DEAD TO SIN/ALIVE IN CHRIST)

Wrapping it all up...in a box of sardines!

So this semester in Pauline has been interesting, and challenging. I have really enjoyed getting completely emersed in the Pauline Corpus. There is so much more still to learn from Paul and his ministry. One of my favorite things about this class, and one of the things that made the class alot easier to enjoy and learn, was Dr Foster's passion for most of the subjects. It is always easier to sit through a Tuesday/Thursday class if the teacher wants to be there, and enjoys teaching and discussing the material being presented. I also enjoyed the seminar, this was a first time expierence for me, and I think that more professors should consider this in thier upper level classes.

Along with gaining more knowledge from this course...I gained some new friends. There were alot of people in this class, that I had never talked to nor had I had the opprotunity to talk to before. I really enjoyed getting to know my fellow ministry majors better, some I had known for awhile, and also the ones I didn't know at all. All in All, this class has challenged me spiritually, it has provided some encouragement for my daily life...and well also my academic life...which I guess is daily life too...but anyway, I really got a lot out of this class. So Hasta Pasta!

Abbilicious

Friday, April 21, 2006

Another one bites the dust

According to yesterday's horoscope I will be rewarded for the work I've accomplished, as I've learned this semester, I guess only time will tell. I've been shown how Paul was masterful at the way he pastored and mentored people. Without being overly harsh or arrogant he put people in their place by being honest with them out of love. He found ways to teach them that were familiar to them and sometimes had special significance to them. Paul's consistancy and passion for the health of the local church is to be admired and imulated. I think that churches today could use some honesty out of love and concern rather than leaders being afraid of rejection or retaliation. I know now by looking at Paul's letters that their is a way to communicate concerns to a body of believers out of love for them without attacking them or insulting their intellegence.
Outside of that, I've learned an abundance of contextual information that I did not know before, and had to relearn some things that I thought wrong. The importance of the culture and civilization became much more apperent this semester. In writing my paper I learned that although there may be questions about who wrote what and when, there is still truth in what we have before us, and by looking past the doubt we strengthen our faith in God and His providence through the scriptures.
I need to apologize for spelling errors due to my drowsiness. pseudoephedrine works wonders. All hail the mighty Drixoral.
Well, that's enough out of me...peace out.

Mr. Bill Lee Faber

Reflections on a Semester

What has Pauline Epistles taught me? Nothing. Nothing at all.

That is, unless you count things like the Beatitudes of an Exegete...or the tests of a good interpretation...or the two-city approach to understanding Paul...or the reinterpretation of Paul's conversion in the paradigm of the call of an OT prophet...or a detailed understanding of the first, second and third missionary journeys...or the inherent contrasts between Lukan and Pauline theologies.

But I mean, if you're going to count stuff like that, you might as well also count things like the compositional analysis of Philippians...or a deeper, better understanding of Paul's opponents...or the right way to perform a mirror reading of an epistle...or the theological and social problems occurring in Corinth that prompted two canonical letters from Paul...or the overarching themes of Romans...or the historical, stylistic, and theological problems associated with incorporating Colossians into the Pauline corpus...or the impact of Second Temple Judaism upon the deciphering of confusing Pauline passages.

But c'mon...who cares about that stuff?

(Hint: I do.)

Monday, April 17, 2006

Virtue List

Paul gives a virtue list to the Christian’s at Colossi in chapter three verse twelve. He says to put on compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness, and patience. Paul continues to with forgiveness and love. I think this is very good for every believer to look and ask themselves whether their life reflects these Christ like attribute. I believe the most important virtue comes in verse fourteen when Paul says to put on love. If we have love then compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness, and patience are taken care of. Paul declares that love is the perfect bond of unity. Having real unity within the church seems impossible but it is a necessity. It is well known that the church does not function the way it should without unity. The issue is that believers need to be able to love as Christ loved them.
Stephen

Pure Doctrine

My favorite part of the discussion today in class involved the opponents of Paul and his teachings. The Jewish opponents emphasized the Jewish holy days such as the annual festivals, the Sabboths, and the New Moon celebrations. I am sure that this "hit a nerve" with Paul. His main purpose in writing to the church at Colosse was to bring to the attention of the new Christians the importance of guarding against false teachings. The Jewish opponents were trying to acceive piety by their observances of their Jewish traditions. Paul was trying to emphazise the importance of focusing on Jesus and humility. Paul was demonstrating that their concept of humility by practicing outward bodily sacrificial actions was not really being humble but a status symbal. What one does in private correspondance with God is what counts, not outward actions.

Vicky

The Mystery Book

Of the many questions about the book of Colossians and if it is even Pauline at all, the one that stood out the most to me was the one dealing with the issues of Colosse. This has a lot to do with all the rest of the questions, because most scholars think that the language in Colossians is different then all the other Pauline books. While this is true for the most part it is different language because Paul is dealing with different opponents, and he does it by using their language and thier culture to show them the reality of Christ, and this is infact a Pauline concept to doing things. Paul is reaching out to them on their level and by doing this he shows them how important it is to have the real teaching of Scriptures and not the false teachings of the many diverse supposed concepts that the city was supposely full of. Things ranging from Hellenistic Mysteries to Jewsih Mysticism and all the many in between that we discussed in class today. I think that when you put into context that Paul is always trying to show the simplicity of the Gospel, but showing that though it is easy to become a Christian but very difficult to be a Christian he is giving them the full truth. This is how I like to minister to people as well, by reaching them on their level, because all this theolgy jargon they might not know, but they can know the truth if you reach them on their level. Disciple OF a Glorified God , JB

Requesting Prayer from a Brother is not the same as praying through a Saint.

I am responding to the comment about asking our others to pray on our behalf. It is not the same as praying to a saint on our behalf. There is nothing wrong or unbiblical about praying for one another. I also believe that we are supposed to lift each other up in prayer. I don't think that any of us believe if our Pastor prays for us that the prayer will be heard over ours. On the contrary, Catholics do believe whether their doctrinal statement says so or not, that the Saints as well as the priest prayers are heard over their indivual prayers, or they wouldn't go to confession or hold the virgin Mary in such high regards. The idea of asking a brother to pray for you has not been taken to the extent of praying through the saints. We do not make statues or wear beads, or have paintings of the brothers we ask to pray for us in our homes or churches. The idea of a person who is dead praying on my behalf is not logical. We also don't know for sure that just because the Catholic Church deems someone as a saint that they are held as a saint in heaven. Some Catholics don't even agree on who should become a Saint. There also is no scriptural basis for someone in heaven to have any interaction with the living on earth. I understand the point that was trying to be made in class, and some do fall into that category, but not those who know better. The bottom line is that praying for someone else is not the same as asking a dead person to pray for you. All men are created equally in the eyes of God.

The Mystery Book

Paul's Opponents

I am suprised not more people mentioned that God was a woman. I figured that would raise a few eyebrows and get some fingers to typing. Unfortunately this is also not going to be a persuasive argument about how God is feminine and therefore wears womens jeans (Father forgive me for my blasphemy...). The most intriguing part of this Colossians discussion of Paul has been the idea of his opponents. There is so much specualtion as to who was the problem and there are many persuasive arguments out there to support every idea. Yet, I feel that Polhill did give the most practical explination when he mentioned that Paul's opponents were a blend of the different speculations. Which brought of the point of over simplifying the matter. Paul had opponents when writing this letter, that is proven. And I believe that is a combination of different opponents and not a set form of opponents.

Paul the Hymnist?

I like how Polhill talks about the “stanzas” of Paul’s Christ Hymn: first stanza—Christ, Firstborn of creation; second stanza—Christ, Firstborn from among the dead. The idea of Christ’s presence in the creation reflects the idea that John portrays in the 1st chapter: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” For years I have often thought that Jesus was an afterthought (God already knew he was going to do it, but he thought he would try the Law first) of creation, but I have come to realize through my understanding of theology that Jesus was there the whole time and was in the forefront of God’s mind from the very act of creation. Christ is also the firstborn from among the dead; this is a nearly eschatological idea pointing to the resurrection of everyone else too. Jesus has already experienced the death and resurrection to make him that much better than us. I think someone should take this hymn idea and run with it…no Stamps and Baxter…Baptist Hymnal!

Zach

essesnes

I have to say that I think that Colossians was written in responce to the essesnes. From my study of the essesnes the list of problems that Paul has seems to hit several of the essesnian beliefs. If the synogue in Colossi was essesnian then the essesnes would have much influeance with the people. We have seen how that Jews from the synogue have caused Paul trouble before, why not the essesnes?
Danny

No other god's before me...

Does angel worship have any significance in today’s society? In doing a brief study about angel worship in Colosse, I understood that angel worship can still be looked at in today’s society. At first I would not have thought that, but I now do. No matter which group had an influence or how they actually worshiped angels, they were still putting God second. I look at society today and see films were people in some sort of way envy angels. There are a lot of movies today that focus on angels instead of God and we see several of them through out our lives. I think the most important thing to understand about the passage of scripture is there should be no other god’s before him. Why worship something that the creator made?

Brother in Christ,
Billy Hardesty

Prayer to Who?!

"Worship of angels and saints" was put into better perspective for me today. I did not know from where the "justification" of such acts actually derived from. Though it is not worship (theoretically/doctrinally), it many times is precieved that way in such traditions as Catholicism and Greek orthodox and even Lutheranism. I was glad to know that the roots of such practices came from upright motives; the idea of encouraging "saints/angels=holy ones" to interceed upon our behalf is not such a terrible thing. Like Dr. Foster said, it is similar to our protestant tradition of asking a "strong brother" to pray for us. But does our own tradtion not leave way for person worship? Possibly... probably. In either case it can be dangerous to place others on such high pedestals.

Jesus is, The Savior, the Advocate, the Redeemer, and the Righteos One, by who's blood we are made righteous.

The fact of the matter is Paul prayed for others and Jesus prayed for others, so then should we. either of the two prayed to anyone but God the Father.

a Colossian and American problem

I really like Paul’s exaltation of Christ in Colossians because like the recipients I also find myself seeing Christ as inadequate. Our society permeates with this mindset. If you don’t believe me, observe our culture. What has everyone asked you about your weekend? Probably the question, “what did you do?” I don’t have a problem with the question; I am sure I asked others the same thing, but why do we not ask, “how was worship or what did Christ do?” We have an inclination that we must be busy doing something fun or our time is wasted. I catch myself jam packing my free time and thoughts with all kinds of activities; internet surfing, sports, canoeing, biking, and time with friends. Lately I have often put “practicing the presence of God” underneath happiness. As if Christ is not adequate to provide joy, peace, and fulfillment. The Colossians were doing the same thing, but in a different way. Paul’s word to them was, “He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by him al things were created: things in heaven and on earth…He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.” He created a tiny earth in a huge universe. Christ is far above being worthy of worship and we should worship him.

kevin

saints, angels and the like...

Coming from a Catholic family I can fully appreciate the comment by Dr. Foster about praying to saints. It has always been told to me that Catholics do not pray to the saints, but rather through the saints. I must admit I always took the typical Baptist stance on the issue and regarded praying through a saint to God to be pointless and a bit childish. It was not until today that I better understood the issue. We often have others pray for us, as if our prayers will somehow not be heard by God. This was really put in context for me today. The discussion about the use of angels in Colossians gives me reassurance that the Christians of the first century were in some extent facing the same issue that we are today. It is so amazing to me how God uses a letter written thousands of years ago to minister to us today.

-Steven Price

Paul's Defense of the Gospel

I believe that the explanation of Paul's defense of himself sheds light on the position of the apostles in relation to the gospel. In modern Christianity, we separate the messengers from the message. If one major evangelist sins and loses credibility, some Christians may becomed disillusioned, but the message of the gospel will not die. On the contrary, in Paul's situation, the credibility of the gospel message hinged on the credibility of Paul. This was not necessarily a correct way to view the gospel, nevertheless the culture of honor and shame dictated that the messenger was just important as the message. I believe that such a perception of the gospel persists outside of Christian circles. Honor and shame may not be as potent as it was at the time of Paul, but many non-Christian people still watch and wait for a messenger of the gospel to fall.
In Christ,
Paul

Overly Complicated

Rather than agree with Pohill's statement that we overly simplify the letter of Colossians, I disagree. Based on the several arguements of Paul's opponents it seems as though we try to overly complicate it. Accepting Pohill's theory that this document may be a combination of several issues is more of a simplification. Trying to seperate Paul's opponents in to different categories makes things complicated, especially purposing different arguements for each. I like Pohill's thinking that this may be a combination of issues, but this doesn't really answer the problem at hand. Trying to decipher who his true opponents were based on the styling and vocabulary seems to more pin point the problem. This complicates the document, but searches for the true meaning behind it. Blessed are those who study text rather than topics, because they will inherit integrity.

Christ is big enough

For the past few years I have struggled with my ability to fully execute my responsibilities to the absolute best of my abilities. I try so hard to do the absolute best and have become a perfectionist. For the longest time I have feared that if I did not do the absolute best performance possible that I have failed God. Even more I feared that by not performing accurately in my ministry that the repercussions could be horrible for those who rely on me for spiritual guidance and council. I have put so much pressure on myself that I have basically become miserable, constantly trying to work in fear of failure and the results of it. But after reading the hymn in Colossians, I have realized my mistake. I had put Christ in a box and thought that the results of my ministry relied on my efforts and my planning. In reality, Christ is the one who rules all things. He conquered the powers and authorities, not I. I have repeated the mistakes of the Colossians by trying to make my studies and ministry my attempt to gain holiness and acceptance and not seeing that Christ is big enough to handle it all. I rejoice knowing that Christ is Lord over all and nothing can ever defeat Him!!! I do not plan to be a complete slacker when it comes to my responsibilities, but I can now breathe a giant sign of relief knowing that no matter how good or bad my efforts are, Christ is big enough to use me and take care of my mistakes.

Travis Adams

What really matters

I think that in reading Polhill and also, after discussion in class today that it is essential to look at all views on a subject but not to forget the importance of what it all means. I am referring to the entire discussion and part in Polhill where we learned who all were possible opposers of Paul in Colossians. I think it is really good that Polhill points out that we do not always need to explain everything and have all the facts as long as we can come to an understanding as to what the major problem was and how Paul dealt with the issue. The point being that there was an 'inadequate view of Christ' in this church. Paul deals with this by giving a picture of the exalted Christ, one that Polhill argues is the most exatled in all of Paul's epistles. I like how Polhill continually brings up arguments but reminds us what we should focus on, and gets to the meat of the issues he presents.

Good stuff

Abbilicious

Salvation

Romans 10:9 confuses me, is that a salvation experience to speak the name of Christ and believe in your heart. I hear words of people saying about their " salvation experience" is this what we are talking about here? I do believethe words of Paul and the bible as truth I just don't understand if this is a one time experience of "when I accepted Christ" or a more logical beleif of professing and believing in Christ everyday.

-Jacob

keep your shirt on!!!!!!

Today in class the question was raised if angel worship was really happening in Colosse and Dr. Foster made the comment that you do not create rules for things that are not being done. this made me think of Paul's writings in a different way in that many things that I saw as Paul just giving helpful advice or suggestions in his letters were probably written for a specific purpose. Looking at his writting from this standpoint makes much of Paul's writting more understandable and brings a greater impact because of specific purposes for everything written. This makes comprehension even more important as we study the texts because many if not all of the situations that Paul addresses can and will impact us in our present culture.

Peace, Ira

abstinence

In Collose, Paul is being opposed by Jews how were attempting to demonstrate holines through strict adherence to the law. These people measured their place in God's favor by doing works and by abstaining from certain things of the flesh. Paul in response to this questions these people by asking, "if you with Christ died to the elemental spirits of thwe world, why, as if you were still alive in the world, do you submit to its regulations -"do not handle, do not taste, to not touch"... What is Paul saying here? Is he saying we have no need to abstain from the indulgence of the flesh because we are dead to it? (This would seem like a Gnostic argument.) No, what he is saying is that Holiness is not meausred in the law but rather in the heart. If we read the early part of the chapter (vs. 8-15) we can clearly see that verse 20 and 21 are a mere echo of what is formerly stated: Holiness and salvation is found in Christ and in the heart, not the flesh.

A recipe for unity in the church

Right after Paul speaks of things that should not be a part of the Christian life, he speaks of things that should be a part of the lives of those who are “God’s chosen ones, holy and loved.”
In Colossians 3:12-17, Paul tells the church to “put on heartfelt compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness, and patience”. This is a list of traits that Christians should stick with, and it seems to be mixed in with love, which Paul says is the perfect bond of unity. When harmony in a body of believers becomes broken, the problem may be traced back to failed attempts to correctly display this list of compassion and love. Why do churches split so often? Could it be that sometimes the members of the church forget the love that was freely given to them? How can someone believe that it is ok to withhold forgiveness from any person. The fact is that no one is deserving of forgiveness, but God has given it to us and we are to reflect this. If anyone has a complaint, be forgiving just as you were forgiven. This is Paul’s recipe for unity in the church.

The contradicting James

I realize that it is a little late to discuss Romans, as we talked about it previously but something has been intriguing me. I encounter rather often those who say that James and Paul did not agree on issues of faith and works. It would seem in a precursory reading of the two authors that a conflict does in fact occur. However upon closer inspection of such verses as are found in Romans chapter five it is clear that Paul himself held that works were important to the faith. By no means did he intend for works to become the foundation upon which salvation was recieved but instead saw it as a natural outgrowth of his faith. I have long felt, and now it has been confirmed, that the works that we see in our lives are important because of what they show off, but showing them off does not make one more spiritual.

Kenneth

Paradigmatic Instability

For two thousand years, the Christian church has operated under the fundamental philosophical assertion that humans are clients in need of a divine patron to provide them with what they lack. This paradigm is certainly not unique to Christianity; it is the framework by which almost every religion operates. But is this truly an accurate depiction of the divine/human relationship?

A New Model Proposed

I am a firm believer in the test of exclusivity; all things being equal, the only correct religion will be the most unique religion. If we claim to have the only truth, and yet share much with many other faiths, we must re-examine either our truth-claim or our doctrinal precepts. (Of course, one must never forget the effect of sociocultural and religious derivation in this type of analysis.)

The question then is: Should Christianity be built upon the idea that we lack something that God can give to us?

I offer for consideration a paradigm based upon the relational model of understanding the Gospel. Instead of humans coming to God in search of something that's missing from us, we come to God in search of a relationship.

Consequences of the New Model

This paradigmatic shift would not come without cost:
1) A reinvention of Scripture would become necessary. Instead of Scripture being the "only rule of faith and obedience" and an "effectual means" by which God interacts with us (questions 3 and 155 of the Westminster Larger Catechism), Scripture must become primarily a historical document, to be viewed with authority roughly equal to any other document produced in the Greco-Roman world.
2) The concept of sin would have to be discarded. The concept of sin, and the associated concepts of justification and sanctification, are perhaps the most well-known direct representations of the old paradigm in the world. Although the discarding of these ideas would cause a dramatic impact upon our society, it would be an impact not without significant benefit. The uncountable millions of people who consider themselves to be "good persons" would no longer be tortured by self-fulfulling notions of guilt and despair. This concept is, without question, the most psychologically damaging aspect of our religion; we owe it to ourselves and to our loved ones to no longer torture ourselves. This freedom is the impetus for the entire paradigm shift.
3) Orthodoxy and orthopraxy would be drastically altered. It is perhaps impossible to predict what church would look like under the proposed paradigm, or what the content of one's individual faith might become. This uncertainty should not be an effective deterrent, however; all great discoveries, voyages, and reinventions are accompanied with uncertainty.

I have only sketched out here a few brief thoughts on the matter; further thought would be welcome.

Monday, April 10, 2006

Ain't nothing you can do about it

I've understood for a long time that works cannot save you, or as put today, that works cannot put you into the covenant, but the concept that works cannot keep you in the covenant is a concept that I've only recently grasped and even still wrestle with today. I want to do things that will please God and signal that I am a Christian, but I tend to forget that there is nothing I can do to lose my place in the covenant or to make God love me any more or less. Concerning this matter, man I respect greatly once said "God loves you, even when you bring Him nothing."

Is Paul Ant-semitic? Didn't he helpJews?

I read the wrong stuff last night. I read the Jerusalem Collection stuff and wrote these thoughts to blog. Our lecture today actually talked a little about some of this.

Paul's harsh words towards his opponents in his letter to the Galatians is sometimes considered anti-semitic. Paul definitely is harsh to his opponents who teach that Jewish traditions such as circumcision and works of the law are required to receive the full blessing of God, but is he anti-semitic? In Galatians chapter two, Paul says he is very eager to remember the poor. Our reading teaches that there was a famine in the Roman world that must have greatly affected Judea because all the disciples were attempting to aide the Jewish Christians. The “poor” Paul mentions in Gal 2:10 is possibly the Jewish Christians in Jerusalem affected by the famine. Paul actively participated in the relief efforts by encouraging the Gentile Christians to support the Jewish Christians in Jerusalem. If Paul was anti-semitic, would he be so actively involved in helping the Jewish Christians? Doesn't Paul see himself as a Jew? Does the term Jewish refer to Judaism ethnically or religiously? It is quite clear that Paul does refer to Jews ethnically because how could someone be two religions at once, Jewish and Christian. If Paul does indeed see himself as Jewish and views Judaism only ethnically than he could not be anti-semitic. If Paul sees Jews in a religious sense, then the remarks could almost be qualified as anti-semitic. However, in these harsh remarks, Paul is just demonstrating to his opponents the truth revealed to him by the risen savior about how Jesus himself, a Jew, came to fulfill the promises to, as Paul would say it, “the Jews first, then to the Greek.” Jesus' blessing is not through works, but through faith. Would someone anti-semitic help Jews by giving money? Is Paul ant-semitic? I don't think so.

Law=Bad; Jesus=Good (or not?)

Greetings. In my years of growing up in the church, especially in the years of youth, I remember having it drilled into my head that those Law keepers were some pretty bad people. Along with this was the teaching, or interpretation, that Paul was absolutely apposed to the Law and it should all be ignored and replace with Jesus. (I am exaggerating slightly) My home church, which is now without a pastor, has had some new attendees here lately that have been questioning the place of the Law in Christian living.

I mention all of these things because I feel it is of utmost importance for us as ministers to deal with this challenging question: what part does the Law or works play in the Christian life? Today's lecture on E.P. Sander's view of the Law within first century Jewish thought and his thoughts on Paul's understanding of the Law was quite thought provoking. I do not agree with all that he has to say, but he does make us realize that in Paul's teaching the Law is not bad nor should be discarded. As Dr. Foster taught, good works serve as a sign of a true convert.

Faith in Jesus Christ

Paul emphasizes in several different passages that salvation comes through faith in Jesus Christ. Many stressors were placed on whether righteousness was obtained through the old law. Paul writes saying that we should not throw out the old law... instead use it to glorify the fulfillment in Christ. In his letters he encourages the readers to do the same. He calls them to test their ways and see where it leads them and search for the truth and wisdom.

Praying for Colossians

While reading Colossians for class I was struck with a wonderful example of believers praying for other believers. Paul knows of the faith that the believers in Colosse have and he is compelled to pray for them. Paul and Timothy even say that they have not stopped praying for them in verse nine. It seems that they faithfully prayed every day for the other believers because they wanted them to grow even further in their relationships with the Lord. They specifically pray that the people will grow in knowledge of the Lord’s will so that they may be fruitful in every thing that they do. In today’s church we have to be praying the same thing for each other. We need to have a desire to see others around us grow and be fruitful so that we may come together as mature believers and work together for the Kingdom of God. Our prayers for each other need to be consistent as Paul and Timothy’s prayers were for the Colossians. Imagine how strong our faiths could be if we prayed for and supported each other as we see in the Bible.
Stephen Foust

Did Paul start the Church in Colosse?

A hard question to answer is did Paul have a hand in the starting of the church in Colosse? Doing a brief study about Colosse, I read about different ideas about how the church had started. I am writing this blog in the hopes that maybe a discussion will be started about this issue. One suggestion that struck my interest was Epaphras mentioned in Col 1:7. Could he have been a helper of Paul that started the church and he had been the reason why Paul and the Colossians had a relationship? Maybe some think that Paul did go to Colosse. I am still undecided and probably will be for a long time to come, but maybe somebody knows something that I do not.

Brother in Christ,
Billy Hardesty

Justification

In justification man stands before God accused. We are justified by faith by believing in God's word that we no longer stand as one accused, but rather one who as been made right with God through the saving grace of Jesus Christ. There is nothing in anyone that would make them choose God. Justification is entirely the work of God. God is the one who does the calling. We are the ones who need to be found, not God. If it is that we cannot find God, who moved? I have to say emphatically that God was not the one who moved.

In his article in the Holman Bible Dictionary titled "Justification" Paul Jackson writes, "...in the New Testament, God dealt with the sin of humankind by the highest and most intimate form of revelation, His Son Jesus Christ. The earliest Christians believed that they were “made right” with God through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ (Romans 3:21-26; Romans 4:18-25; 1 Corinthians 1:30; 1 Corinthians 6:11; 1 Timothy 3:16; 1 Peter 3:18). In his letter to the Romans, Paul conveyed the message that God did not consider sin lightly. Sin created a massive gulf between God and people. This gulf required a bridge to bring all of humanity into a right relationship with God. Theologians call God's bridge building “reconciliation.” Reconciliation functions to bring humans “justification.” The main character who effected this divine plan was Jesus Christ. Uniquely, His death on the cross made it possible for God and people to be reconciled (Romans 5:10) and thus for humans to be justified.

If I were not a sinner, why would I ever need to be justified and if my reconcilation with God rests on my performing good works and obeying the Law then I am doomed. I can only say with a sincere heart, Thank You Jesus for the sacrifice you made for me so that I do not recieve what it justly due to me.

Michael Carpenter

Where Adam Failed, Christ Persevered

I am continually amazed that years and years have gone by in my Christian life reading Romans and until last summer, I have never understood the contrast between Adam and Christ as Paul mentions in Romans 5: 12-21. The concept of this passage is so simple, but still so forgotten. Polhill uses the term "humanity" (p. 290) in reference to our standing in sin; we were part of the humanity of Adam, but in our lives in the humanity of "the Second Adam" (Christ), we are made righteous through Christ’s obedience. To me the passage is saying, "Adam screwed up by being disobedient to one rule, so Jesus came to clean up the mess." It is almost a bad son/good son contrast yet in the context of God’s providence. The grace of God is made evident from the very beginning of creation to the very end of time, and the Apostle Paul makes this idea very clear.

Zach Pyron

"Human Wrath"

I found G.L. Borchett's section on Human Wrath interesting and challenging. He connects some of the wrath scriptures spoken of in Romans with Christian living. We, as believers in Him, should leave anger to God. Although Borchett explains anger to be okay at times "it must not be indulged." I find it difficult when I become angry to exercise restraint. I think Ephesians says that when angry do not let Satan have a foothold. As mentioned in the article, the best attitude for us to have involves allowing God to have his wrath when he chooses. We should simply rely on Him to be humble and pray for eyes of grace. Through our lives we should reflect and tell others about Christ. The world watches us and we must be self-controled even if persecuted. I really have no idea what dealing with persecution is like, but the scripture teaches we should allow those times to demonstrate Jesus to the world and allow the Lord to have vengence or show mercy.

kevin

Faith and Works

The "argument" of faith vs. works has not really bothered me too much as of yet. I have a simple philosophy in relation to the subject. As Christians, we have been redeemed from our punishment of death, and been reconciled to God the Father; not by any "work/act" we've done, but through the grace found in Christ's atonement. And because of this monumental and accompishment of Christ, which we don't deserve, we Love and Serve God and others out of the gratitude of our hearts for of our salvation. not for the salvation.

Covenantal Nomism

This theory created by E. P. Sanders, as discussed in class, has been expounded on by the works of James D. G. Dunn. Dunn explains this idea alittle different from that of Dr. Foster. In reading through his book, A Contextual Approach, Paul & the Law, I understood this idea as relevant. That is Paul addressed the Church of Galatians to suppress this idea; the idea of national identity. Dunn explained this concept being the Jews thought of the law as given to them; thereby, they were the only ones to attain righteousness through it. Paul on the other hand, refering to Abraham, showed how faith was before the Law and faith remains after the Law. Therefore, the Gentiles, like their father Abraham, are saved through faith. Meaning, if the Law still applied Gentiles would be called to it, but since it is fulfilled we are saved through grace. This idea supports Jews as Paul's main opponent or rather a systemized religion in general. Based on Dunn's exposition of the scripture it seems sound.

Works serve as a sign

Today in class when Dr Foster elaborate on the role of works in the believers life, it helped me verbalize what I had always thought to be true. Works serving as evidence of a person’s salvation rather than the means of that salvation brings about a better understanding of Christian practice as a whole. I sadly admit that before today I never really thought about Eph 3:8-10 and its complete thought. Today’s class has truly lifted some anxieties as far as verbalizes my understanding and how best to explain works and their function in the Christian faith. It has brought about questions on how much in common James and Paul’s theology have. I guess that they do not oppose each other as much as I originally thought.

Travis Adams

Colossians....

The evidence that was discussed in class today about the authorship of Colossians is very interesting to me. The Historical, Stylistic and Theological points that were presented made sense and now have me questioning the validity of Paul's authorship of the book. Until today I always assumed that Paul wrote Colossians and never gave it a second thought. The non-Pauline vocabulary and the Gnostic ideas that are prevelant in Colossians present the biggest evidence to me for a non-Pauline authorship.

This discussion has really challenged me to research basic facts about the Bible that I was always taught were true. If Paul in fact did not write Colossians how many other aspects of Paul and Pauline theology that I always held to be true are in fact mere speculation?

-Steven Price

The prupose of the old covenant

Romans 5:14, "Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sinning was not like the transgression of Adam, who was a type of the one who was to come."

Death and sin reigned in the aforementioned time period because of the sin of Adam. God gave his creation free choice and they chose to sin, as we discussed in class. However, when the law was introduced, as an act of God's grace, a door was opened for the redemption of God's people. The people of God eventually became corrupted in the law as well, and finally Christ was introduced as the final resolution to the sin between God and man. Why did God first give the law instead of just Jesus. Did he not know that it would be inadequate? Did he, as some say, only provide the law to prepare for the way for Christ who was always the original plan?
If God did not know that the law would fail does that mean that he is not all knowing and sovereing? Does it imply that God was in the process of trial and error? If God only inteded the law to be a precursor to Christ, does that infer that he simply used the people of the Old Testament as pawns to orchestrate his ultimate goal? These questions are very difficult and I believe that they do not find resolution in any simple answer. Of course God to have known the fallacies that would arise from the law, but I believe that the law served as a truly genuine way for people to know God while, at the same time, illustrating the complete depravity of mankind and the total dependence of man on God's complete grace and power. I am confident that I will never understand the full depths of possible answers to these questions. Ultimately, I can only rely on the God that I find in the Biblical text and on the character that I believe he reveals therein. He is loving, just, and sovereign, and he treats his people according to his character.

Authorship in Colossians: The Tip of a Colossal Problem?

I must admit that I typically ignore arguments against the accepted view of authorship. They often seem to end exactly where they started. When I studied authorship of the pastoral epistles, I spent a large amount of time considering the possibility of non-Pauline authorship. The arguments belonged to the typical regimen of criticisms that scholars use when examining a passage. The study of such criticisms has not changed my views on Pauline authorship, but it has given me a greater understanding of the possible purposes of a work such as Colossians. In the case of Colossians, the unique characteristics of the book lend themselves to arguments against Pauline authorship. Though some would argue that Pauline authorship is essential, I do not believe that Pauline authorship is a necessary element on which the value of the work must be based. The contents of the book have stood the tests of canonicity and time. I believe that all other Pauline works should be examined with these standards in mind.
In Christ,
the other Paul